Interview with Natali Deus — AI in Contemporary Art | Biennale in Cannes | Exhibition at the Louvre 2024
August 19, 2024
NATALI DEUS UNIVERSE NEWS, London
Interview with Natali Deus — AI in Contemporary Art | Biennale in Cannes | Exhibition at the Louvre 2024
Natali Deus Universe (real name — Cherkashina Natalia Sergeevna; born July 9, 1981 in Odessa) — Ukrainian-English artist, psychologist, writer, and bioenergetics. In 1996 she graduated from art school, and then from the Odessa State Art College named after M.B. Grekov in 2006. In 2004. Received higher education at the Odessa National State University named after I.I. Mechnikov, specializing in “Psychology”, Received the highest initiation in the field of healing in the bioenergetic branch — Reiki Master Usue (2012). She took part in various exhibitions and festivals (Art Festival “Beauty will save the World” — 2001–2005, Odessa Body ART (2005), Exhibition Festival for Illustrators — “Komikadze” (2009), She published her book, a mystical novel, being the author and illustrator of the book, “Alice” (2007).
Personal Art Exhibition entitled “Ice and Fire” (2012), International Exhibition of the Art Festival of the Italian Company — “ITSLIQUID GROUP” (2023), laureate of “Artist of the Week” of the JAG gallery (2019–2022) and took first place in the “GOLDEN TIME TALENT” Festival in London, in the specializations of artist of paintings, and writer.
In May 2024, the artist’s paintings took part — in Cannes at the Cannes Film Festival — International Fine Art Cannes Biennale Curated by Heinz Playner. In the “International Fine Art Cannes Biennale” — International Fine Art Cannes Biennale 2024 during the Cannes Film Festival 2024.
September 2023, participated as an artist in the Face ART festival established by Council Bedford, England UK.
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- Natali, hello, with your extensive experience in art, you probably have an opinion about the emergence of artificial intelligence in ART and its influence on the work of artists. When and how did you first encounter the emergence of AI in art and how did you react to it?
- Hello, Vladimir! Thank you for your question, which is appearing in people’s minds with increasing amplitude of interest today.
For the first time I saw a picture painted by AI, about 3–4 years ago — these are still the first steps of the first types of AI for presentation, as a type of activity for AI in ART and in the World in general. But to this day, this is more decorative painting on canvases using machine technology. Recently I saw one picture painted by AI. To a greater extent — this is decorative and applied abstractionism, and with this type of style in Art, AI can well compete. As for clear images and what is literally, so to speak, written from the Soul, such works in which the Idea, Feelings and experiences of the Individual, as a Personality are invested — this for AI, I think, will always be unattainable! Despite the fact that AI is developing, literally lightning fast at the speed of light! Today, AI possesses all the Knowledge in all spheres of life and activity on our planet that has ever been embedded in the Internet, and is available for obtaining information from the outside. In the near future, humanity will face direct confrontation with AI.

– Do you think AI can replace humans in ART?
Will AI really be able to replace Humanity in various fields of activity — attempts to introduce such a model of life have already begun and will only intensify, people are replaced in various fields of activity by AI — robots do not sleep, do not eat, do not get tired and, most importantly, they do not need to be paid a salary, funding is allocated only for technical maintenance. But in this case, this even puts people’s lives at risk — since where the human factor works — flexible, albeit sometimes illogical, spontaneous in the situation — human thinking, as well as bioenergetic and spiritual aspects that can play a major role in avoiding a negative situation, AI, guided only by electronic knowledge, will not work and this can cause great harm to humanity.
All is well in its harmony or the Golden Mean! There are areas of activity where AI is simply irreplaceable in its physical and informational superiority, and where it is absolutely inappropriate! This was also very clearly demonstrated in the world by the example of advertising — where “IPhone” released an advertisement about how there is no more place for humanity in Creativity and Art, that everything is robotic, to which they received a response in the form of an advertisement from “Samsung”, that Creativity and ART — this comes from the Energy of Feelings, Emotions, the State of inspiration and the potential of desires. In essence, the Energy of Creativity and Inspiration is the Absolute psychic Energy, materialized in the form of images and psychosemantics of color by various materials available to man in the space of material life in the form of paintings, sculptures, architecture and architectural painting and other exhibits of Art.
At this stage of development, artificial intelligence is a mechanism that has not reached such a component as the Soul — that Psychic Energy — Atman, which is meant! Considering the development of human civilization, its anatomical, physiological and mental structure, electrical and energy waves that produce the human brain and heart, reprogramming of neural connections of the brain and so on, it is quite possible to assume that humanity is simply gradually — millennium after millennium goes to self-creation. As Jesus said — “I am Alpha and I am Omega.” If we omit the concepts of the Beginning and the End, then the saying is quite good: “Everything new is a well-forgotten Old — Circular Guarantee”! It’s just that at this stage of life on the planet there is no such Source of Energy to project and literally give birth to a new round of civilization — AI + Soul Atman (Spiritual psychic properties from Above) + a completely biological anatomical and physiological body! The ART sphere is a psychic release of creative inspiration, and this is only inherent in human nature!

– Are there any exhibitions where AI works are presented, or artists adopting AI ideas for their creations?
– Are there any exhibitions where AI works are presented, or artists adopting AI ideas for their creations?

– As far as I know, you participated in the Biennale in Cannes this year? Tell us about this event, which famous artists were there, and what paintings did you present yourself?
- Thank you for your question! Yes, my works took part in this year’s — “ART Biennale”, which was held by PAKS Gallery GmbH — International Fine Art Cannes Biennale — Curated by Heinz Playner. In the “International Fine Art Cannes Biennale” in May 2024 during the Cannes Film Festival 2024.
For this event, two paintings were chosen — “Frida Kahlo Writes a Letter to Trotsky” and “Mexican — Salma Hayek”. These works were most suitable for the theme of the May Film Festival in Cannes. Paintings that hide passion and real stories from the lives of these famous women, whose destinies, albeit mystically, not in reality, but intertwined thanks to Cinema! In her youth, the actress dreamed of playing Frida Kahlo — a famous and extravagant artist from Mexico, where Salma Hayek herself comes from. And this dream of hers came true, it was one of the strong works of the actress, Frida Kahlo herself literally came to life on the screens! Two bright and strong women from different eras are captured in my paintings!
Regarding ART Biennale — it was a bright and beautiful event, filled with positive emotions and acquaintances with famous artists from different countries! Thanks to the concept — Dress code, all the artists presented their works in evening dresses, some artists — women, came in dresses with a print of their paintings — it was bright, like a fiesta or extravaganza of color! At the opening of the Biennale, I had a more individual pleasant acquaintance with three strong artists in their style. In life, many pleasant meetings and acquaintances happen, but there are such meetings that can be designated as Signs from the Higher Powers, I would describe these meetings this way.

The first to approach me was Tanja Playner — a famous artist and art critic, director of the MOCAMAG Contemporary Art Museum. It is her style, for me personally, that is similar to Picasso’s style, and if you answer the question — “Who is the next Picasso?”, then it is Tanja Playner. I also met Anakha Nair — an artist from India, we took a photo together, her energy is very sunny and friendly! I like such practices as the Vedas, Kundalini Yoga, Mantras, Ekadashi, Qigong, Reiki. I also have a bracelet with mantras, at that moment I imagined the Vedic Goddesses, such as SHAKTI, Lakshmi, Saraswati, these are the feelings I had at that moment. Like a bright sign from the Higher Powers! Then Maka Dadiani came up to Tanja Playner and me, she introduced herself and gave me a pleasant compliment about my works, it was unforgettable, since Princess Maka Dadiani is one might say a Legend, she is a Master in her own individual style, a very talented and famous artist! For me it was very nice, I can say, as if I had won an Oscar, such vivid sensations! Her works, for me, are Favorites, very beautiful paintings, to my taste! Already on the second day of the Biennale, the organizers created a photo shoot and an excursion to the most famous and beautiful places in Cannes, where I also had a chance to briefly meet other artists participating in the Biennale.
Very cheerful and friendly Nikoloz Meshkishvili and many other artists! Despite the fact that all the artists were from different countries, everyone became great friends and from the outside there was a feeling that this was a large friendly company that had known each other for many years!

– Are you planning to take part in the Louvre exhibition this year? How do you feel about the upcoming event?
– The Louvre is the dream of many artists, in my opinion! Since childhood, when I studied Art History at the School of Arts, many biographies of famous artists, in the description of their artistic achievements — the last paragraphs ended with the fact that their best works are in the Louvre! One of my favorite artists, like many other art lovers, is Leonardo da Vinci, and his famous “Mona Lisa”, at least according to official data, is in the Louvre.
That’s right, this fall, or more precisely — on October 18, 2024, a large-scale International ART Exhibition — Biennale will be held in the Louvre, Paris.
Officially, this event is called — “Modern Art Masters in Complex du Louvre Carrousel du Louvre Curated by Heinz Playner MArAMaStOr in complex du Louvre. In the Catalogue “Modern Art Masters in Complex du Louvre” and in the international Art Fair in the Carrousel du Louvre in October 2024.»

At this Biennale, works by famous artists from different countries will be presented, including my works among them! This is the largest and most grandiose event in the World of Art, which at the end of 2024 will strengthen its position by releasing a large encyclopedia — a book about many famous artists who also took part in the large-scale Biennale in the Louvre, Paris 2024, part of the History of which I and my paintings will become! These events are breathtaking and fill with positive emotions of happiness and inspiration! This is what gives me the strength to strive and improve in creating my paintings!
- Natalie, what does it mean to you to be a famous artist? Is it necessary for every artist to strive for fame and what should be done to become one?
- An interesting question, ambiguous… In my understanding, being a famous artist means constant invitations to participate in the best world exhibitions and Biennale, it means cooperation with strong world associations, gallery owners, art critics, ART dealers, auctions, collectors, to promote artists, their art and interests! What is already — to be famous and constantly interesting for art critics, an artist in the ART sphere! Bold expression of your Individuality of view on the World, your ideas in your works and to see the response, hospitality, and acceptance of people in their enthusiastic looks and reviews! Constant improvement of your skills, development of new personal ideas in your art, movement and implementation of the introduction of your Art into the World ART market, which is an important component of the entire World of Art!

But is it necessary for each artist to strive for fame — everything is Individual, each life and story! For each person — everything according to sincere inner desires and goals! An artist is a person with his/her individual programs, thought forms, emotions, spiritual experience, interests and goals! If for a person the very goal is to simply become famous, for the sake of fame itself, most likely it will be a short-term phenomenon! Fame should not be the main goal, it is just one of the levers — tools for achieving True goals and intentions, which are the generator of Ideas and Inspiration!
What should you do in order to become famous? — really want to achieve your goals and intentions, strive, using all existing opportunities for this! World Technological Progress — this is very well promoted, Media spheres are the main channels for promotion and fame, and all kinds of public resources. Be able to be flexible and positive in thinking and cooperation. Be able to share and thank those who help in this special chosen Path to achieving goals! And always remember that fame is not a goal, but a means to achieve goals! Higher, more important goals, in my case bringing to everyone and everyone — Good, both energetic and physical, at least I believe in it and strive for it! And faith is an endless energy that creates miracles and Worlds!
– What influence do the artist’s works, which were created through his inner state and through thought forms and emotional energy, have on the lives of their buyers in various spheres?
– In fact, the entire World consists of many individual worlds created — created by thoughts, emotions and feelings by people on the planet. Any changes in the psycho-emotional state are fluctuations in frequencies and vibrations. Everything that a person creates, especially works of art — all this is an emission of his psychic energy, and the quality of this energy, so this object — for example, a painting or sculpture, will affect the life of its owner.

In the History of Art and the World, there are striking examples in the form of already famous paintings, I will list only a couple, but there are many more — “The Scream” by Edvard Munch, Ilya Repin “Barge Haulers on the Volga” — the acquisition of which influenced the lives of their owners so much that for many of the owners it ended either in a collapse in life or a fatal outcome. Everything is Energy, as physics says! — all paintings emit frequencies and vibrations — this has already been proven with the help of technical progress, scientists have verified this fact with the help of special equipment. I don’t know how it is now, but in the past, in order to paint icons, icon painters observed fasts and read prayers before working on the icon, clearing the space in which they worked on creating the icon, clearing and harmonizing their biofield, their consciousness and mental state — such a picture — an image (and in fact, everything is images!) will bring a blessing and improvement of the life of its owner! Another good example is the Mandalas of colored sand in Buddhist Temples — the process of creating the Mandala itself is a meditation, monks thus clear their consciousness and Chakra centers — each color is a resonator and activator of the Chakra. While working on the Mandala, monks synchronize both hemispheres of the brain, their health improves.
Today, many psychological and meditation techniques are known that are directly based on images and visualizations. All paintings are visualizations of the artists’ images transferred to the canvas! Any painting located in the living space of its owner completely influences his life, not only energetically, but also through visual synchronization — constantly looking at the painting, and through the consciousness and subconscious of the owner! Therefore, the Ecology of Ideas in Art is important, because — Yes, the psycho-emotional state of the artist has a direct impact on the buyer of his paintings in all areas of his life!
– Natali, thank you for taking the time to do this interview and we are looking forward to seeing your works at new exhibitions! I would also like to remind you that Natali is open to cooperation with anyone, ART dealers and investors. You can learn more about Natalie’s projects on her personal page https://natalideusuniverse.com
Interview prepared by Vladimir Mikhailov
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